#017 Putting It All On The Line

A conversation with author & National Living Treasure, Tim Winton


This special podcast features one of Australia’s great writers, National Living Treasure, and reluctant activist, Tim Winton, direct from the World Heritage Listed Ningaloo Reef in Western Australia.

Tim Winton. Pic:  Hank Kordas/AAP  sourced from The Guardian.

Tim Winton. Pic: Hank Kordas/AAP sourced from The Guardian.

It’s amazing to see how capitalism and machismo, extractive, you know, of fossil capital, as some people like to call it ‘the fossil economy’, is so neatly bound up in machismo and narrow versions of masculinity. It’s not a nurturing way of seeing the world. It’s not a sustainable way of seeing the world. It’s not good for people and it’s not good for the planet.
— Tim Winton

Tim has again donated his prize money from a recent literature award to help launch a campaign to protect this area, called Protect Ningaloo. He has also been touring the country extensively with the publication of his brilliant new novel, The Shepherd’s Hut.

Along the way, he’s been talking a lot about manhood and masculinity, and the problem with our narrow – even toxic - view of it. This wide-ranging conversation with host Anthony James explores why that matters, along with fiction and the arts generally, and what it's all got to do with Ningaloo and the state of the world more broadly.

Get more:

The Shepherd’s Hut, Tim’s latest novel, set in Western Australia.

Breath, Simon Baker's film adaptation of another of Tim's award-winning novels (which premiered in Sydney the night before this conversation).

Get involved in the campaign Protect Ningaloo.



Jessica, by the Allman Brothers Band.

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