ABC Radio Perth with Gillian O'Shaughnessy

Highly respected writer, editor and interviewer, Gillian O’Shaughnessy, spoke with Anthony James on ABC Radio Perth for 15 minutes about our continually increasing commute times in cities, Anthony’s experience of living car-free for the best part of 20 years, and some of the changes in transport systems that are actually improving traffic (spoiler: it’s not by adding more lanes to roads).

Just click on the image above to download the MP3 file. (You can picture Anthony on the phone in Exmouth for this one, taking shelter from the wind behind a small church. There but for the grace … )