179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley (Part 2)

Chris Henggeler on the donkey situation, wildlife management & microbiome mysteries

Welcome to part two of Coming to a Head in the Kimberley, featuring one of the great stories of regeneration, and one of the most spectacular regions in the world, at a time when both are acutely on the line. Join us back at Kachana Station in the East Kimberley, with award-winning regenerative pastoralist Chris Henggeler.

 

Kachana Station (pic: Anthony James).

 
They cooperated with humans at some stage to the extent that, over millennia, their wild ancestors are no longer there. At what point in time do they lose biodiversity value? Why should something lose its biodiversity value simply because it cooperates with humans? But isn’t that what we’ve done? Everything that cooperates with us, we cancel its biodiversity value and if we can’t make money from it, we kill it.
— Chris Henggeler
 

We pick up the conversation from part one here, on the latest with the donkey situation. Since we last visited Kachana, the state department that ordered the donkeys at Kachana be shot as pests, and the Henggeler family that has geared their behavior towards regeneration, have been in mediation at the State Administrative Tribunal. The Tribunal’s adjudication on that appeal is due before year’s end. It will carry with it the fate of the donkeys at Kachana, and with that the fate of a potential game-changer in regeneration at scale across the region – at a time when it’s desperately needed.

We talk here about the latest developments, research, language, history and other complexities on the matter - including the donkeys the Henggelers do shoot at Kachana. And we end up comparing notes on Chris’s related personal efforts with some paradigm changing health practices.

This thoughtful dialogue plunges into the intricate ties between biodiversity and domestication, sparking intriguing debates on managing both wild and domestic animals. We ponder over the immense significance of local wisdom and nature-informed decision-making in sculpting our future. It's an enlightening journey that challenges our understanding of relationships and responsibility, both towards ourselves and our planet.

Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player above), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read).

This episode was recorded at Kachana Station on 23 August 2023.

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Find more:

You can hear part one of this conversation (with photos and links), at Coming to a Head in the Kimberley: On regenerating consciousness, community and Country.

Resilient Earth, composed by Sheila Silver, featuring a piece called Shooting Ruminants, inspired by experiences like Kachana Station.

RE:CONNECTION Festival.

Kachana through kid’s eyes, on ep.15 of the Yeshe Interviews podcast on Spotify.

 

Music:

Regeneration, composed by Amelia Barden, from the soundtrack to the film Regenerating Australia.


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